When/Where

The Wheatland Mission, a gathering of Christians seeking to stay close to Jesus and be involved in his work in the world, meets corporately every Saturday night at 5:30 for a time of worship, learning and sharing in the Lord’s Supper.

WEEKEND WORSHIP GATHERING (and mailing address):

Every Saturday @ 5:30 952 S. Hillside, Wichita, KS 67211 (“1st Salem Church”)

E-MAIL:
Paul Hill
 
WEB:
www.wheatlandmission.com
 
 
 
PHONE:
316.992.1540


5 thoughts on “When/Where

  1. I appreciate your website. Can you send me the priamry source for the Wendell Berry quote,” It gets darker and darker every day and then Jesus is born.”
    thank you.
    Mary Louise Edwards,OP

  2. Mary,

    My apologies. I don’t often come to this page on our website and I overlooked your comment from last Fall. Unfortunately, I don’t know where Berry said it but I did take this quote from Anne Lamott’s book “Bird by Bird”.

    Blessings,
    Paul

  3. I have an issue with the wording in the Apostle’s Creed. As a Christian, I agree with most all of it, but I don’t like how it casually infers that Jesus descended into “Hell” before rising again.

    I don’t believe in Hell, but I know a lot of people who do, and I believe it causes them to think in such a way where they trick themselves into thinking that Heaven is some sort of exclusive club reserved for Christians only. The concept of Hell, in my opinion, is not much more than a scare tactic to get people to act nicer than they might otherwise, and I absolutely don’t agree with scaring people into behaving a certain way. Acting out of Fear, in my opinion, is rarely healthy. If you want to grow the congregation at our church, it needs to be done with Love and not Fear. Unfortunately, the whole concept of Hell undermines our efforts to grow the church and causes some people to treat other people of this world like pieces of garbage.

    There is no in Hell. “How can that be?” some might ask. God surely judges us, right? Isn’t God planning to come back again, to judge the living and the dead?

    Indeed, God is. And yes, God judges us. God judges you. God judges me. God judges all of us, but, in the end, we all get to go to Heaven. If you are confused, I don’t blame you. If you have questions, please let me try to explain….

    At the beginning of your life, imagine that God filled your body with the Holy Spirit—all the way to the top. Imagine that all children are created by God and filled to the brim with the Holy Spirit, regardless of the religion of their parents, regardless of their race, regardless of their eye color, etc. All children. Through the Holy Spirit, God lives in each and every one of us.

    To illustrate this further, I want you to think of your body as a glass or a cup. Your cup is unique. Your cup is slightly different in shape and in color than most other cups. However, the size, shape, and color of your cup is, for the most part, irrelevant.

    Now, I want you to think of the Holy Spirit as water. Imagine your life and everyone else’s life as billions of cups, all filled with water. And as we spend our time on this planet, our individual glasses of water go through periods of cooling and warming, freezing and thawing as we sin and are forgiven, until we reach the end of our lives, and it comes time to die.

    I believe that when we are good in our lives, when we are close to God, when we are kind and helpful and gracious and humble, then the I believe that the Holy Spirit—in our metaphorical cups—finds the warmth to remain in its natural unfrozen state. In contrast, when we do wrong, when we hate others, when we hurt others, when we move away from the goodness of God, then the Holy Spirit grows cold and freezes, and we, as people, grow rigid, scared, and spiteful.

    Please imagine these people as they reach the end of their lives:

    Cup #1: I’m going to refer to this person as Mother Theresa, because I can’t imagine a more selfless individual than Mother Theresa. For the most part, this person is pure in her thoughts and kind in her deeds. This person is close to God. She is not without sin, because we all have sin, but she is about as good as it gets. Mother Theresa gets to the end of her life, and the water in her cup is cold. It’s cold, but it’s not freezing.

    Cup #2: I’m going to refer to this cup as Most People. At the end of their lives, Most People look somewhat like this. Most People are somewhat frozen. Most People are sincerely apologetic for their wrongs, but not quite willing to let go of certain resentments. Most people are forgiving, but they are not completely accepting of others. Most People are a mixture of water and ice. Some people are more frozen than others, and Most People are always in a period of warming or cooling. Most of us are a bit less perfect than Mother Theresa. Some of us are a lot worse.

    Cup #3: I’ll leave this person Nameless. However, I will say that this person has strayed from God in the most atrocious of ways, and at the end of life was spiteful and full of Hate. Some people are sick and enjoy hurting people, and this is very much the case with this Nameless person. Think Nazi. Think KKK. Think Westboro Baptist Church. At the end of life, for the purposes of this analogy, this person’s cup contains solid chunks of ice.

    Am I making sense so far? Good. Now, to the main point . . .

    Imagine for a moment that when we die, the contents of our cups are dumped into a great strainer, a giant filter of sorts. Something like this:

    And on the other side of the strainer is a river, a river that represents Heaven, a river of everlasting Life.

    To clarify a bit further, I believe that when we die, our cups (our bodies) are discarded, as we are spilled in the direction of the great “strainer”. The good natured souls, like Mother Theresa, move through the strainer with great ease and are reunited with the metaphorical River of Life.

    In contrast, Most People, when they die, will need to wait for God to melt away their sins, before allowing them to pass completely through. Some people might refer to this as Purgatory, but I like to refer to it as God’s Grace. The term Purgatory excites Fear in people and that’s not what I’m trying to do.

    The Nameless, or the worst amongst us, will need to wait the longest before they too, through God’s boundless Grace, are eventually allowed to pass through the strainer and become one again with the River. The term “baptism by fire” comes to mind.

    The important message in all of this is that we are ALL saved. We are all returned to the River of Life. God created each of us. God loved each of us. God will save each of us. This may be hard for some people to wrap their head around, but even the worst of humankind shall be saved after is it is all said and done. It is all part of God’s plan.

    It is my contention that God does not condemn anyone to eternal suffering in Hell. That makes absolutely no sense if our God is a God of Love. I refuse to believe that God would allow a place like Hell to exist in the first place.
    Unfortunately, a lot of other people don’t see it that way. A lot of other people believe that Christians, through their belief and acceptance of Jesus Christ, go to Heaven and that most everyone else probably goes to Hell. Many Christians actually believe that most Muslims go to Hell. It’s scary that it’s a simple black-and-white issue for a lot of people.

    For many people, in our church as well as others, Islam is whispered to be a religion of Evil. Even though it is a fact that Muslims worship the same God as Christians and Jews, some people have embraced the xenophobic opinion of banning Muslims from entering our country. These people have convinced themselves that this type of discrimination is acceptable. They are scared and they are suffering. They are living each day in the tight grip of Fear. I know these people. I have met them, and I am assuming you have as well.

    I want the people of our church, and everywhere else for that matter, to consider this idea, just for a moment, that none of us—whether we be Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Jews, or Atheists—will be going to Hell, because there is no Hell. Some of us will be allowed entry into Heaven a little quicker than others, and most of us won’t get into Heaven right away, but, in the end, we will all be saved.

    I desperately want people, as hard as it might be, to be open to the idea that Jesus saved everyone, and not just the folks who exchange presents with one another on some day in late December. I want people to be open to the possibility that there is no Hell, so we can start loving our neighbors instead of fearing them. It’s hard to love or care for someone, if you think that person is probably going to Hell. It is also a lot easier—for some people—to justify dropping bombs that will kill “innocent civilians”, especially if there is any reason to believe that those same “innocent civilians” are already destined to end up in Hell.

    The truth of the matter is that I don’t know any of this with any certainty. It’s just a theory. I don’t have all of the answers, but my 10-year-old seems to agree with me that this explanation makes a lot more sense than some dejected archangel holding a pitchfork and doling out vicious lashings in the flaming pits of Hades.

    In the end, I’m hoping that this message will help people to stop hating and fearing complete strangers. I am so sick of so many people being so scared all of the time. I want people to love their fellow man regardless of race or religion, and I’m worried that if someone doesn’t say something or do something soon, it will soon be too late.

    All of that being said, I feel better for saying something, and I trust that you will too. Please share this message of Hope with others.

    I know it might seem hard, and some people might accuse you of being a terrorist-sympathizer when you share this message with them, but those are probably the people who need to hear this message of unconditional love the most.

    I hope and pray that you will choose to help me spread this message and share it with the world.

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